Welcome to the Love Sex and Leadership podcast where you can discover simple tantric teachings to embody your true power, awaken your soul's wisdom and live an inspired life as a natural intuitive and heart centered leader. Welcome everyone. We're having you another epic conversation with a powerful brother here has made a really big difference in my life. And I'm very excited about this opportunity to dive into the conversation around cock and balls and, and just what it means to be a man. And um I'm, yeah, I've learned a lot from Bruce. He stepped into my life as a mentor at a time when I was really like, ok, who's not just understanding the concepts in the brain, but who's actually living and breathing this into day to day life. And I was at a six week mystery school down in Haydn and continue to be a part of that on and off through many years. Um I haven't been down there in a while, unfortunately, but my heart is still deeply connected in New Zealand. And, you know, there's AAA magic and a mystery, but yet a really deeply grounded heart that I've always felt when I've been in around Bruce and with his presence and um many of you with Raven also to the Love Sex and Freedom Podcast. She Bruce has been a strong mentor for her as well. So, it's really a joy to have you here this conversation and to talk about the, what it means to be a man and what it means to have a cock involved. So, thank you brother for showing up today. Yeah. Well, it's always fun to have a chance to drop in this year. And congratulations on your new book coming out. And I love the, I love the focus on embodiment and you know, cotton balls is a little bit provocative, but it's about um well, actually, it means that the bottom line to be in a male body and to carry those mysteries and somehow I think because the patriarchy has been strong for the last few 1000 years, men kind of just assume they know what it is to have phallic power or to be in touch with their balls. But unfortunately, I think men are, are more disconnected um than women are in some ways because women have the mysteries and the Red Tent mysteries and because they know that they're mysteries had been like disenfranchised in the world that they've gone after them and then claimed them. But I think men are, are kind of so lost that they don't even know that they're lost about those particular mysteries of um, you know, of what it is to, to have a cock and what it is to, to have erections and what it is to have speed and, and, and one of the deeper mysteries involved with that. So, um, yeah, I think part of really landing in a male body is, is coming to terms with the things that we don't know and, and seeking to deeply uncover again those mysteries. Yeah. And, and that mystery, you know, I feel like it's part of for me where a big journey has been to, like I knew my flic power. I loved having sex as a young man. I loved, you know, penetrating. But actually like when I deepened into the mystery of, you know, I love to penetrate, but actually being penetrated just by life and learning to be more receptive, merged me into a whole world that initially felt very uncomfortable. But it's actually, I feel like it's what supported me to grow and evolve. So love is to speak into that a little bit because I feel like there's an alpha man. But then actually underneath that alpha man tends to be, you know, maybe some known tenderness that he can be quite afraid of as well. Yeah, there's a vulnerability of course, but then often that vulnerability is then covered over by aggression. So a lot of the bad press that the immature masculines had around rage and, and, and um you know, for forcing itself on the world is often masking a deep inadequacy. And the only men have defined themselves as one by being not feminine which or has its own polarity problems, but also by not being sexual. A lot of the, the traditions of our spirituality have been polarized against sexuality specifically. And so masculine sexuality is probably the the most um demonized and misunderstood on the planet. In fact, you could say we lost our clock back in Egypt when, you know, with the Cyrus and phallic mysteries, and we lost our balls in Greece with um Uranus being demas by Kronos and men haven't really been able to claim them back. Um at least in a healthy way, you know, because actually part of a power is very vulnerable, you know, beyond the, the forcing the erection and the harm cock on the world. Actually a hard cock, a really vulnerable thing like being in the world in, in flesh is like there's no way to hide, you know, you're, you're out there with your, your experience and your desire. And I think any man try to overcome that, just that prayer, the vulnerable prayer of an ECT conch with some kind of force or pressure or domination because that, that vulnerable, that are having their genitals on the outside for all the world to see. And, and of course, we've, we've turned that into a kind of mental spiritual thing, you know, and Haydn used to be a seminary and the whole idea of seminal, like your book is a seminal work, we will be going out and seeing a whole lot of people's minds, which is amazing. But we're often disconnected this concept of seeding and semen from actually the physical correspondence in a male body, which is how to actually have an erection and then how to have seed and bowls in a way that's an integrity with your whole being where your spirituality and your sexuality are deeply linked together. And I think that's, yeah, that's edgy work for men. Hm. Yeah. The, the, the sexuality and spirituality mix together. And I, I think a lot of men coming on to the spiritual path who maybe they've come away from their sexual kind of promiscuity or debauch nature. And they're like, no, I'm gonna put on my white cloak and I'm gonna be a spiritual man and I'm gonna say all the things I need to say and, you know, so to speak into that because, you know, I found myself in that trajectory for a little while and it was like, oh, I'm, I'm not sexual, no, spiritual men aren't sexual. It's like to actually like own that in a healthy way. I think it'd be confronting a lot because of what society says around, you know, that, that dark masculine energy and how bad it may be in the world, you know. Yeah. Well, I think a, a lot of men in my generation yours probably, um, try to be good men by not being sexual, not being in their ball. So they did their own castration just so that they could be, you know, um, fit in and not be, um, exercised from the heart. And yet the, the ball mysteries and the cop mysteries are much deeper than that. They're about bringing the soul and the heart all the way down and grounding it in the body. So maybe a couple of things to say about that is just like with Dion and the womb, the yoni are the like the lesser mysteries and the womb is the deeper mysteries. And the cock a like power is the lesser mysteries. Learning actually how to deal with their actions, how to, to um not just be run by desire, how to link your erection to your, your deep core purpose. These are the massive mysteries and then you get into the b mysteries and the seed industry which, which are deeper. So just that the less industry is for a start, you know, part of the men really being in their selling power is knowing how to stand up in the world. You know, not just as a cock, but as a whole being so that your living word of your purpose is vibrating in the world. I mean, we even have it in politics, the upstanding member from, you know, County Shire or whatever that, how to stand up nakedly and vulnerably not against everything, but for something, you know, for the massacre, healthy spirit to come back, there needs to be men that are, have trained back their living word, their integrity, that know how to stand up for the life current in them. So those are the f mysteries, how to stand up as a man and world and be who you are. I'm ashamed. Um Whatever comes, but then the Bold mysteries are about. then how do you see? And you could say that this is probably the most important mystery at this time of transition that we're going through like the seeding of a new civilization from a state of ecstatic union with source like that's, that's up, you know, for men and women, it doesn't matter if you're a male buddy or you're a female, but the capacity to see the new world is really important. And this is not just about, you know, what many men learn ejaculation, mastery, for example. And often they're just learning that to please women, you know, or to be a better sex God or, or to survive longer, not use their life force. They're not wasted in the, in the kind of Eastern methods. But all of these are a long way from the deep mystery of seed, which are not about pleasing the famine and, and they're not about surviving longer, they're about dying, they're about sacrifice. No, when you ejaculate a part of you dies, a part of you is given like salmon going up a river to the next generation. How do you see, how do you breed your life and the stand that you make in the world and give it in such a way that enriches the generations to come and helps create them. So that mystery of holding seed, of what seed is and how to put it into the world in such a way that is life giving and life learning is, you know, I think a particular masculine mystery that's been lost. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah. II, I love the, the context you put to the folic one really being the first and the balls being the deeper level. And I, and I think a lot of men can get lost and, oh, you know, women have so much of their own mystery and then their yoni and that stuff, but actually moving into what's alive in the, to know a man seed and to actually have a healthy relationship with that. You know, it's been a really big shift for me. I was used to, you know, blowing the seed in a condom and put it in the trash and there goes, it's like, but what really is this creative substance that's come through me? And can I utilize this elixir that's come from my body in a way to give it back to the earth or to really honor its creative potential is really what I hear you're saying? And, and I know that shift in my own psyche has made a shift in terms of how I am with my body, with this, this cock and balls that's in between my legs. And I think a lot of men, we don't, we don't have that education. It's not like so young boy. You know, there's a mystery in between your legs and there's a seed that, you know, it doesn't happen who's gonna initiate us in a world of initiated men. You know, like and so, you know, boys get together and try to share the best wisdom that they have. But, you know, like I said before, men are so lost in this area that they don't even know that they're lost or if they do think they're lost, they pretend they're not lost because they, they want to promote this, the stance of, you know, the of, of knowing the answer. The other thing that I want to say about Steve is that, you know, part of bringing down the deep soul mysteries into the body is that there's an integration between our animal, biological life and our soul and these two have to be split, they can be deeply harmonious. But we do need to understand that when we're dealing with our biology, we had this thing on the planet called sperm wars. You know, like so right whales have testicles that weigh one ton because the female of the species is highly promiscuous and the masculine has to like water, blast out all of the sperm of other competing right whales in order to make sure that it's got AAA you know, a genetic chance. And so what's hidden in the unconsciousness of men, you could say the last few 1000 years is pretty well in spur balls like this need for the masculine, this insecurity that means he's in deep competition often without a man and, and that that's been transferred from sperms to ideas, copyright and you know, laws around, you know, who controls information. And all of this is, is a deep, you know, fear and control that is now is possessed the masculine spirit in the world that's so competitive and it lies behind our biology. But if the soul can come down to that part of our biology and dance with the animals, so that, that healthy um wildness in our biological spirit is married with our hearts and with love and with deep consciousness. Now we kind of unpack the mysteries of the stone wars and replace them with a different kind of kingship, which is not everybody with their own little piece of the earth fighting every other king on their patch, whether it's your backyard or whether it's the country. But actually as men we meet in the core of the earth, as Aquarian kings with the whole earth shared where our seed is recognized as one seed, just like women and one woman. You know that, that starts to vibrate when women come together that when men understand that their seed is part of one thing and that we're all here for this beautiful being called the earth to, to, to see the new civilization, then that inherent subtle and not so subtle competition between the immature males of the species starts to be eased. I think that's the hope of the, of the, you know, the reconciliation of the sperm wars by getting underneath them into the deep mysteries of the waltz. Hm. Yeah. What I really hear you saying is a total reframing of how men relate to each other and a reframing from this place of I need to have power over you so that I know my own worth and validation to rather, can we share power together? Can we actually seed power together in a way where we recognize our own unique genius and our own, you know, flavor that we bring in? But actually there's a dancing that happens that birth something that maybe no individual King himself can do. But the, the trajectory of that community place where we're just celebrating all of our own uniqueness into a way where we know our seed, we know our power and we say, hey, I'm here for the place. You know what I often hear from you, the place of where love gets to birth. Hm. Yeah. And I, I think on a mental level, if we got past adversarial politics, which is all about, you know, one side being right and the other side being wrong. And men learned how to receive each other, not just in the body, which gives them a biological vibration, shamanic sense, but in their hearts, in their minds, if they were receptive to each other's seed, that means they would listen to each other and we make, I'm dickhead that wants to mind, fuck everybody. They call that politics. But actually had a process where, where men listen to each other and honored each other's thoughts and, and hard and, and, and help create a deep sense of um synergy from everybody's different ideas instead of someone wanting to have the one ounce on the way, you know, you know, solution for everybody. So this is, you know, like women have been done with this for a long time, but men are also now being done with it. They've been done with the effort that requires to be a man alone and in a, in a, in a um you know, unsupported world and longing brotherhood, the longing for sharing this journey and to come together in a deep and embody place and half with each other is, is a deep thirst that, you know, and I know like there's probably one thing that I see in the world when I go out and, and personally, I'm kind of tired of men's work and done from that life in my world. And I, I'm focused on other things. But if there's one thing that I see in the world, most, wherever I travel is this longing amongst men, for the mysteries to be open and for them to come out of their isolation, to come out of their, their, their hidden vulnerability and to fall in together to a new sense of brotherhood with each other. It's like, it's, it's so, so the thirst is so strong and my heart like, you know, like feels it just about everywhere I go. And so that's why I'm also glad that you're doing the work that you're doing and that you're writing a book and like addressing something, it's always like, you know, for some, some men that the woman will buy them the book and for some men they're like, buy it and read it secretly. You know, it's one of the idea that they have all the answers. They don't need any help from anyone. It's so good to have that sense of support and help from your brothers. Yeah. You know, it, it's funny. One of the inspirations of the book cover is like, you could see the shadow of the, the men behind. It's like, you know, those are kind of your brothers that you, that are there, you just need to kind of bring them there to, to support that, that brother and, and I love you say that because I know like for myself, I've had my own kind of lone wolf syndrome. And I still find this part of me that's like, ok, I, I know intellectually I need to like, trust others and that was a big thing I had with you. It's like, ok, I see you. I love you. But can I can, I really, can, I really trust this guy. Like, it's a little weird, like, and then, you know, I remember a moment we shared and I was like, 00 I could feel the trust in the heart space that you're holding. And actually what you were seeing and creating was from a place of not trying to have power over. It was like, this is me sharing my temple, this is me sharing my life, my wisdom, everything. And it was such a, a shifting moment to feel that place from, from an older individual and be like, wow, like they're creating something new and it, it, that impacted me so deeply because I had never actually felt that level of transparent love from somebody who's been on this planet that longer. And it was like that there's a possibility here and it gave me a seed of possibility that stayed with me to this day. So I just wanna thank you because what you say, you're not just saying it, you fucking embody it. And I I my hat's off to you brother for that. Thank you. And I love the, the feeling on the other side of that and knowing that there's generations that actually, I, I'm modeling a different relationship with the generations. I talked about Greece where, where the story and the myth was. Kronos castrated Uranus. And so many young men have had to steal their economy from their fathers and from the generation before, they've had to fight for their own kingdom. Instead of the torch being passed, instead of generosity happening between generations in between men. There's normally a battle, you know, and each generation has each other to like fight. It's for its freedom and its voice from the one before. Um And so not only do I feel like there's a deep union coming between men on the planet but it's becoming between the generations and um and so on. Yeah, I'm appreciative of the, of that. Mm Beautiful. So I, I have a, you know, a question, you know, on your journey and, you know, being on this earth, what was the, what was the changing moment for you with your own relationship to your sexuality, to your semen, to your, your talking balls? Maybe there's a couple of them but like was there a moment or two that you had where you're like, oh wow, the conditioning to which I know doesn't necessarily work and I'm, I'm open to see something different. What, what did that look like for you or feel like, oh, you know, so many, so many of those I'm gonna choose one which was, which was um trying to do it more the traditional masculine way. Like uh uh um my first journey of trying to ground hide it. I did it purely masculine. I did it with my will. What I fought with my balls and my cock and my bravery and it was like, just stand and die, you know, like come on white meat. You hit me. I, I'm not moving until this thing has landed. I will, I will die on the battlefield if necessary, you know, like and downloaded my full masculine power and it wasn't enough. It wasn't anywhere near enough because because my feminine wasn't with me. So it was only when that failed. And I came crawling back to the island here like, like uh like heartbroken, you know that this, this inner voice in my body and, and, and my sha and someone said like, are you done yet? Like are you done trying to prove that you're a man? Because if you're done, I can help. But if you're not done, then I'm not just gonna patch you up and send you off on another crusade, you know, like, are you totally done? And fortunately I was, I was so totally done. I had nothing, nothing left. You know, that's what it took to break me from that conditioning and pattern of trying to prove my worth as a man, you know. So by failing utterly, then this voice began to like, come and dance with me in it me and it was the voice of the earth and of my own body and of my shamanic powers and of my more the feminine side of my being that wanted to come dance with the masculine, didn't want the masculine to like kill itself in order to, you know, show that it was worthy. And then the second time that manifestation came out of that deep partnership that came out of, you know, my masculine feminine together um coming together into creation. So, so that was the sign for me that the stories that I, I tried to model myself on being pure Sheila, you know, um actually don't go anywhere. They're a half story. I'm also full shock. And until I got and balance that energy and myself instead of seeking it outside of me, then I was never going to come home deeply to my own mistress. Hm hm. I love that you say that until you knew your own shock to, you know, one of the, one of the chapters in my book is called awakening the inner queen. And you know, I kind of leave that a little bit towards, you know, I think it's chapter seven and you know, it's like mastering masculinity. Most guys don't wanna read about the queen, but actually, that's such an important piece. So thank you for bringing that in. Um you know, the, the place especially around cock and balls and men sharing power. We talked about but when it comes to male bodies, sharing lovers, like sharing the place of our sexual energy and actually sharing like, you know, and I should say this, there's a few lovers that we both have shared. It's like our folic energy has been inside the same womb. And, you know, I could feel that old story that's like, oh mine was stronger. But it's like there's actually a deep, like beautiful place of that. and I'd love to just hear what some of that journey has been like for you and, and the, the lessons and learnings from both, obviously the masculine that wants to be the strong one and like the tenderness of that and in sharing love from your own feminine as well. Yeah. Beautiful and terrible. You know, like that's the thing if you want to embody love, you know, and, and, and you, you come down, I mean, and so many people do that and po em journeys and so on. They have wonderful ideals and then the reality of meeting the, the truth in their animals and the truth in my animal is, I'm quite territorial and possessive as an animal. And so I have to have a love and love in my heart and a lot of consciousness to like, hold the beast, you know, hold the, a part of me that instinctively is territorial. And fortunately I've had beautiful brothers who I do love and trust so that I'm able to offset that natural instinctive territoriality and be in the deep breathing out. And when I've done that, when I've actually allowed um myself to not just manage my reactions but true work through them and choose love in those situations. It's been incredibly liberating because I've liberated myself from my own instinctive fears and, and territoriality by choosing love in those circumstances. Horrible times when I've tried to convince my animal that it's worry and my animals like waring it. I like not OK with where, you know what, how, what's happening or why it's happening. But my ideology is tried to like squash that part of me like that'd be really hard burnings. But um the beautiful ones I think come from the deep recognition where there is love and where everybody's cared about and everybody's seen and held there is something truly beautiful. Mm Yeah. And, and you know, I've, I've felt this first hand, I mean, I, you know, I remember sharing an experience with you actually on the island and, and being there, you know, with, with Shakira and I was like, whoa, this is like, I could feel a part of my brain. I was like, there's a lot of like power dynamics here, but actually there wasn't and what I experienced was just like two brothers meeting in this beautiful space of love, actually celebrating the love that was present. And again, uh uh a rewiring for my own body and being to feel that place to say, oh wow. Like I can feel and know my brother is bringing love to uh somebody I love as well. And I'm only going to celebrate that and anything else that's getting in the way of that is just all of our, the own shit that, that gets in the way. And to actually be an embodiment of love was, was such a powerful example to say, well, I can share this and, and still be territorial because I, I felt the especially the last, you know, couple of years with, with Raven, it was like, you know, we're very, very monogamous and like, you know, I could, could be ok with her, you know, running energy and the same thing with me. But like, yeah, it wasn't really did one other penetration happening with other men and neither, neither did she because she's very much the same. So yeah, I, I see both sides and I can also see the place where because of men's inability with being with their sexual energy, the polyamory world just it's often quite messy inside of all of that. Yeah. Well, in particular, II, I see men suffer in their feminine, you know, like it might be in their masculine following their desires, but often the feminine and a man that is that longs for the one, you know, that longs to like matter deeply to someone and has kind of been overridden for the sake of, you know, their desires, you know, can be excruciating to feel and your brothers. Um and, and, and anyone, so I feel like anyone on that journey really needs to be in touch with their whole being on the journey. Or else they, they learn the hard way. And I feel like you need to be very secure in your own relationship with yourself. In order to genuinely share lovers with other beings. You need to have a deep sense of knowing your own value and worth um as a being otherwise you just mask those inadequacies and um and then you don't come into your cock and balls because one of the things that women really want and the feminine in general wants is they want to be ravished by men fully here. They don't want to just be spiritualized. The love of my guy is great, but they want sunlight and power. They want physical embodied masculine energy that can penetrate them in a ravish zone. And you can't do that unless you have got in touch with that part of your animal and married it to the loving part of your soul. Yeah. And, and that line of the ravishing masculine, I think for so many men almost, they're afraid of it because as you said so beautifully that marriage between the soul and the animal, it's like the animal gets to play and then everything consciousness throws out the window and then consciousness comes back to you and it's like, well, whoa, what, what are we doing here anyways? What's going on? So that, that like marrying place where a man's actual true ravishing nature can be there is, is confronting I again, I know for myself when I was really like, had full permission to bring the ravishing self. Oh, I remember my body was like, wow, this is, this is a lot of energy and of course, we're afraid, you're rightly afraid the whole world is afraid of, of dark masculine energy breaking out, but it doesn't help. It just builds up in the shadow. So we're not going to come out with our power fully integrated in one go part of the bravery of men doing that exploration with women who are also brave and want to feed, you know, that man fully embodied is you gonna screw it up. You know, like you're not always going to be the, the, the, the ideal ravisher. There's gonna be times where, where you cross boundaries and you need to like um come back and feel just the healthy shame of that. They're gonna be times where you don't move forward when you should because you're afraid of rejection. It's gonna be messy. You know, like nobody, nobody framing their power ever had it given to them on a silver platter. Like you've got to earn it. You've got to do the mining work of of being willing to integrate your love and power together. And so it's hats off to men who make that journey and to the woman who accompanied them on the RM, you know, and it, it reminds me the, the initiation journey, which I'm running a lot these days, this retreat, which I'm very thankful. A lot of quite a few of the, the blueprint pieces I received from a beautiful journey I did with you many years back. And one of the temples I take the men into we talked about, you know, the dark masculine and I can watch these minds going like, but how do, how do I, how do I do this? Like the mind trying to figure out the embodiment inside of the animal, like trying to discern what's the right way of doing this and how it's the wrong way. And oh my God and, and like the permission field that you just said was that it's going to be messy at times. And that actually, and I felt this again for myself. That's actually where the synthesis and like the the complementary integration happens when the messiness is allowed. And also, you know, men have to know that there is a deep to the whole COVID thing you can just see on the world at the moment, the danger of mind trying to dominate matter, whether it's war against nature or whether it's repression of our sexuality, whatever it is instead of being in partnership. And there's deep wisdom in the body, there's deep wisdom in our eros, there's deep shamanic powers. You don't just get them on a was a journey. You know, you can get them at any moment any day. If your soul has got a deep integration with your body, you can listen to the wisdom of that body and you don't just rely on mind and science for all your answers. There's an integrated wholeness as you know, that comes from like doing your work and, you know, oh, II, I really wish men were, were equipped and helped to do a whole body wisdom rather than just mind. Hm hm. Whole body wisdom. Yeah. Just a, it's kind of the, the what I take people through in this book, just like getting rid of the story and then mastering the mind and then finding the emotional body and then at the end it's like, OK, so I know who I am and then we get to wake up into the purpose of, of our soul that that's here and that's really stepping forth. And I know the soul piece is really quite strong in, in the work that you're showing up as and you know, as we're kind of bringing this towards completion. I'd love to just hear that integrative, like birthing of the soul that is quite inspiring. And I know a lot of the reason that you're, you're growing up and doing the work you're doing. But just people that are listening, like, how can, if, if they've had a taste or a moment or maybe there's been a voice of the soul. How is it that this integration between animal and consciousness that we're talking about can start to just open, it's like feathers and open its wings into the man's life to, to actually make a difference for him. Yeah. Well, I, I feel like to get into really doing your soul work is to do your masculine, feminine work and to do your consciousness embodiment work that that kind of cross. And so personal development work is often about really helping your polarities come into union instead of putting them out in the outer, the outer is a mirror and do your in a work. So your masculine feminine come together, your animal and your consciousness come together, then the soul which is behind that can begin to emerge healthily, you know, so I call soul, the hermaphroditic winged dragon that it's a union of male and female. It's a union of, of um consciousness and body, the soul can play in all of those dimensions. And the reason that's important, it's not just so that your soul emerges and you have a fulfilling life and, and um you know, you, you fulfilled your sole purpose and all of those things is that our souls are part of the one soul on earth, which is not just humanity, which is all of the kingdoms of nature. So that the microcosm of each individual giving authority and sovereignty and synergy to all levels of our being is reflected in the outside by being open to the soul of the world flowing through us. So that we're informed by what's going on on the planet as a whole. We all know that we actually have to meet the crisises that are ahead of us as one's whole being in love, not just as 8 billion separate selves trying to control each other in the world around us that we actually have to do our soul work now because the state of the world demands it. So then your soul, your integration becomes a place that you can listen to the soul of the world to the energy that's behind all things that's in nature, that's, that's transcended to nature, that's trying to burst a new civilization. So that's the thing that most interests me. And I feel like a lot of people have been called to their soul work now because of the collective crisis. They, they're feeling it in their hearts. They're feeling a calling, they're feeling it in mental health, they're feeling in, in not feeling satisfied with the way that they are. They're feeling it in this urge to be free. You know, all of this is the soul calling us. And so I feel like taking those steps where we know how to take them and the things that most matter to people, like their relationships with each other and the work that they do and their relationship with their body, it's all the beautiful Trojan force that helps each individual start to awaken to the deeper mysteries that are just there waiting for our attention. Yeah. Beautiful, beautifully. So, thank you. And so if people want to journey deeper with you and discover more of the, the, the mysteries and the, the wisdom of, you know, with Bruce and what you're creating or tied in, where, where is it that they can specifically find you? I've been ejaculating into the world for a while now. So it's pretty, there's a lot of stuff going on. Why, you know, a lot of videos, a lot of writings and so on that. But you know, my, my my seed is out there in the hide and there's a website that can connect with. Um and you know, Haydn was a, was a, was an attempt to really bring mystery school culture back and not just landing in Haydn now, but all over the world, many temples are landing. But um if anyone is interested deeply in their soul work, then Haydn temple.org is a good place that, that beautiful, beautiful and I I highly recommend it. It shifted and changed my life in so many beautiful ways. So I appreciate you brother. Thank you for your courage to listen, your courage to take action and to, yeah, to really show up as an embodied being who is birthing love and who knows love and is just supporting so many of those around you to remember the love inside. And it, it's uh there's a lot of brevity. There's a lot of um strength that you bring in and it's, it's a strength that is felt deeply, not just in a, in a power way, but in a place that lands deeply in my heart. And it's landed in my heart since you've entered my life. And, you know, I was, I reflected a few times when we first met, we talked about sailing for a couple hours together and it was just like, 02 bros. And I'm like, oh, this guy's, he's got some good things to say as well. He's pretty cool. Well, it's great when sole companion also meets Meets, um, personal friendship. And, um, and I love that new word that I just heard you, you know, coin grave and bravi, you know, like gravity is like a combination of courage and gravity, you know what I mean? Absolutely. I'll take it. There's always, it's been great just hanging with you and, and having a chat about things that matter. Um, so all the best brother and I hope your book reaches many minds and hearts and cocks and balls. Absolutely. Thank you, bro.