Welcome to the Love, Sex, and Leadership podcast where you can discover simple tantric teachings to embody your true power, awaken your soul's wisdom, and live an inspired life as a natural, intuitive, and heart-centered leader. Welcome everyone. We got our technology sorted. We got ourselves here. I got an incredible guest with me here today, Bob Badez coming in from Sedona. I'm here in Miami, and we're gonna talk about emotional mastery, especially emotional mastery as it has to do with the masculine and these male bodies. If you're a female body, there's a masculine in you as well, so it doesn't really matter. We're talking about emotions here. And really this whole series is all about the new book that I've just been releasing today, the Embodied man, which is helping men get out of their heads and into their hearts, so. I couldn't imagine another beautiful, more uh appreciative guest than than than Baba does, so I know I spent a lot of your life and energy and time supporting the planet and supporting people to do a lot of the same and to really like get into their bodies, and I've learned tremendously from you. I've appreciated our brotherhood, our, our, our connection through the years and great to have you here this. Great to be here, man. And it's a, it's a new experience being live on Facebook and Instagram at the same time. Uh, you'd think they'd be able to link them up since they're owned by the same company. Um, so I'm, I'm looking at two different screens here, so it's excuse the side view if you're on Instagram. That's all right. That's all right. So let's, let's just jump right in, like when I say emotional mastery, when I talk about emotional mastery, what does, what does that mean to you? What does that mean for somebody to have an emotional mastery in, in their life? That's a great question. And uh I think what it, what it comes back to is, is who we are as human beings and As human beings, we have many facets. And some of the main facets of our humanity are uh of our embodied humanity are the fact that we not only have consciousness, these minds, but we also have physical bodies, we have hearts, we have souls, we have emotional bodies. And most people are most people are, uh, get confused between the heart and the emotional body, and the, the, the qualities of, of the aspect of this heart and emotions because they're very different things and I, I feel like uh a lot of people, uh, have done some work to get more in touch with their hearts. A lot of people have done a, a lot of work, um, uh, in our culture we're very supported to be in our minds. Our schooling, our culture is very mentally. So focused, um, also body focused in modeling and sports and all those other things to be in our bodies but to actually be fully integrated with our emotional bodies, our hearts, our minds, our souls. And connected to the earth and the rest of humanity when we uh when we can bring all these aspects together, emotional mastery is very important because if we're not able to emotionally connect with other human beings and we're not able to emotionally connect with ourselves or emotionally connect with the planet or even the universe, then what happens is we're, we're not firing on all. All, all pistons were, we're, we're, we're missing different aspects of what it means to be a fully integrated human being. And honestly, we're not taught how to be a fully integrated human being. And I feel that for a long time, um, different powers on the planet have wanted a lot of people to be disempowered and disembodied so they'd be better servants and slaves and I feel like, um, uh, religions, corporation. Nations empires, um, have been working together to disconnect us, disempower us and make us more malleable and controllable. So when, when we talk about stepping into our power, one of the things that's very important is emotional mastery. Yeah, I, I, I love what you're saying there and, you know, I can relate and appreciate so much and You know, one of the things I feel like I know I was taught as a young boy was like logic, reason, understanding. If you, if you get good grades in school and you're, you know, you get all the good academics, then, then life is good. But there was this whole other world of like the feelings and the sensations that definitely wasn't taught in in our education system. And it's rather unfortunate because I feel like when people have more of an emotional education, their lives can actually start to change. But would you say, and what I heard you saying that That there's actually, you could say powers that be are people that don't want people to have more integration because it's better almost to have more robots in a way. Exactly and that's that's exactly the point. And you know, if you're, if you're a man listening to this podcast many times you may have heard in your life that women want to feel your emotionality, they want to feel more connected with you. In our culture, women are given permission to be more emotional. And they're almost like for centuries, they've been tolerated to be emotional. And the thing that, that I think we're starting to realize is that, that our emotional presence is an asset. Our sensitivity is an asset. It's an asset if you're an alive, aware, functioning, integrated human being. If you're a robot, it's not an asset. You know, so, so I think what's happening is we're starting to step into our power and as we step into our power, our power is directly related to our emotional mastery and our emotional bodies because it's that sensitivity that supports us to intuit things that the mind will never be able to do. Like there are things that are happening. Through my emotional body, that, that are gifting me with information because of my connection with my emotional body, that my mind will never be able to, to be able to do to serve me. My mind can understand and, and create more space for space for me to receive the, the information coming from my. Emotional body and that's an important thing as a as a spirit and as a conscious human being I need to stop slow down and actually invite my emotional body into the equation and start to really value the fact that I have feelings that I have joy that I have happiness that I have sorrow that I have grief that I have rage that I have fear that I have bliss and. And that feelings aren't a nuisance that gets in the way. They're actually uh an essential part of being an empowered human being. Hm, yeah, I, I love the, the clarity to which you say that, and, you know, especially also coming from a, you know, you've been on this planet longer and an older male body who's speaking that quite clearly that That it supports me and I feel I can support a lot of men who are listening because that training isn't, you know, what we were what we were taught. Like my military training was like, you know, if, if you're vulnerable, then you're weak. If you show sadness, then you're weak. If you show your emotions like real big boys don't cry, you know, all the things that are just societally brought in. So, what would you say to, to a man who is just beginning to recognize that he does have emotions and he might want to feel, but maybe the world around him isn't really as accepting of those emotions. Like, where does somebody begin with that? Well, I feel like part of it is, um, is creating community and people around you that have, um, common values. And, uh, if you're around people that don't honor emotions, that don't like emotions, that don't wanna feel, then you're going to have us people discouraging you from being a fully integrated human being. If you're around people that honor emotions that love emotions that appreciate sensitivity that wanna know how you feel, um, then you're going to wanna know how other people feel you're gonna wanna know how you feel, like how you really feel in your body, in your heart, in your soul, um, and, and as you start to ask those questions and as you start. Um, actually inviting and holding space for yourself to feel, then what will happen is your emotional body will start to become whole again. And you know, a lot of the things that we teach in the ISA programs, uh, uh, that are so amazing, um, have to do with ways to reignite the emotional body, how to polish our link with our emotional body, how to call it back. And and how to start um igniting that aspect of ourselves because uh once again if we're if if we don't know how we feel then we really don't know how to move in our lives and we're moving from what we think rather than what we feel and that's often gonna get us into trouble and eventually it's gonna leave us in a place of knowing that there's something more but we don't know quite what it is. What it is is reclaiming our emotional bodies. What it is is developing some kind of emotional mastery just like we would just like we would go into the gym to work out and to build our physical, uh, stamina and to tone our muscles, we need to go into the emotional gym to work out and, and tone our emotional muscles, our emotional bodies, um, and a good example of that is, um. If you're an individual like what emotion is really challenging for you? what emotion is really hard for you to feel? Some people it's gonna be anger some people it's gonna be happiness, some people are gonna be terrified to feel their grief or their sadness. So, so you wanna go through all the emotions you can think of and then. And then notice which ones are the ones you need to build, which are the ones you need to actually start exercising so that you get more comfortable with them, more connected with them, more able to express and feel them. And, and as you do that, you'll, you'll start to develop more emotional mastery. Mm. Yeah, and, and really what I hear you saying is, is this place of like actually feeling, you know, I feel like what happens a lot with the emotional body is that It's the mind cognitively trying to explain what's happening inside, and there's a place I found in my own emotions where I get to where actually there's nothing that can ever be cognitively explained or understood. It's actually just this diving into the mystery that's there and feeling all the things are there. And my mind initially was like, whoa, this is freaky and weird and scary. I don't know where to to go from here. But actually, you know, that when I first learned a lot of the tools inside of this container, it really supported me to know what to do with my emotional body, and it's something that, you know, even as a man, you know, even leading up to this book launch, like the day before, I had all this anger and rage and all like teammates weren't meeting deadlines and I was just like, And I was there in front of my computer and I could feel all this energy rising, so I went to my pillow and I was just like, ah, letting all that move. And then I'm like, 00, here I am. I'm I'm back. I'm centered. And like the Aaron from 20 years ago would have been like just been in that like like dicing and fighting and trying to like fight against others and not actually sitting with what was coming up inside. Well, that's a really beautiful thing you shared, Aaron, because our default program is to go into control. And to control our emotions and to not let ourselves feel and not let anybody else know that we're feeling something. Um, so I, I, I just wanna celebrate what you shared there and celebrate the, the mastery that you've been bringing in because, uh, uh, uh, it's that sensitivity, knowing what you're feeling, and also realizing that emotions are like water, and water is one of the most powerful forces on the planet. It's a very powerful element, and if you try to hold water back, it will find a way to seep in and move around. And it will leak out unconsciously. So if you're trying to hold back anger or sadness or grief, it it's gonna leak out. People are gonna feel it, but they're also gonna lose trust of you because they can feel that you're holding something back. And so when you're holding back emotions, it's not a way to build trust with anybody, including yourself. So if you wanna trust yourself, you wanna let emotions flow. Emotions are energy in motion and when we allow emotions to flow, what happens is rather than holding on to emotions, we're able to let them move through us and we're able to come back into a place of ease and stasis and If you're holding on to emotions, what happens is they just keep piling up, piling up, piling up, piling up. And one of the things I know to be true for me is that if I'm not allowing and supporting my emotional body to move and flow, I am holding on to emotional energy and that held emotional energy becomes stuck in the physical body, and it's actually the foundations of disease. Mm. And physical breakdown. So I feel, and I've seen this so many times over the years. I worked with so many people and I can see where if they don't have emotional flow and emotional mastery and they're not masterful at letting their emotions move through and flow. Oftentimes, those are the people that are really sick, they have allergy problems, they have illnesses, they have emotional problems, they have financial problems financial problems, physical problems, um, relational problems, and all of that is because they're filled up with emotions that are stuck and nothing new can come in because they're not clearing themselves of all the emotional baggage. Mhm. Mhm. Yeah, there's there's two points I just really want to draw home that I love that you shared. For one, you know, I remember when a mentor of mine said, like, actually the strongest. Energy on this planet is a feminine because if you look at a a rock in a river, you know, through years and years and years, what's gonna wear away that rock, which is a stone, the pillar, I am the masculine stone and the pillar is actually the feminine element of the water. So the water is what I feel like when I look out at Pachamama when I look. Out into the earth, which is all these feminine element, is actually the most potent powerful energy that we know. So to not know that energy inside is actually like discrediting a whole part of our being. You know, I, I, I laugh with the title of this book because it's called Mastering Masculinity, but really, you know, it's about mastering masculinity and Femininity, but I know if I put that on the title, so many men would be like, no, I'm, I need to be a man, I need to be an alpha man, you know, but actually, but, you know, I found the more that I've leaned into my femininity in that aspect inside, the more powerful, certain and strong my my masculine presence has become. So and and the other thing I love that you said was really around the, the, the part of us that gets sick, the part of us that gets sick cause we're suppressing things inside and. I'd love to just speak into that even more because I feel like I witnessed you and you, you know, you've been on this planet for a little bit longer and you have a strong, powerful physique and you're moving and exercising your emotional body, as well as like your, your physical body. So to speak into that even more, like somebody who is not moving their emotions, like, what can be the, like the piercing words that's gonna support them so they don't have to get cancer later on in life, so they don't have to have this suppression. Like what can actually get them to break free of that cage? And I, I see this with guys because we understand the concept, but then when it comes down to it, we're still like, no, I'm not gonna feel, no, I'm not, you know, even if we understand what we're supposed to do. So like, what is it that can pierce through that armor to actually let a man truly feel? Well, I feel like you just, you kind of just said it. It's like, hello, brother. Do you want, do you want amazing relationships? Do you want to be wealthy? Do you want to be healthy? Do you want to have, um, you know, do you wanna live your life to its fullest? Or do you want to break down and be sick and die sad and angry and, and in despair? You know, that, that's basically the invitation. And, um, and again, you know, it's like I feel like the things that give us the reference points are, are our role models and, you know, uh, I wish I would have had more role models in my life that were fully integrated human beings, and I know for myself when I started learning the emotional tools and calling back my emotional body, it, it took me years and I feel like I, I only started this, uh, probably after. 10 to 15 years of emotional practice and, and reclamation that I actually start to reach, start to reach a level of mastery, emotional mastery in some levels. So I feel like I was so gapped from my emotional body and I. It doesn't have to be that way. We could, we could start learning the emotional tools and emotional mastery from the time when our parents' wounds and our and our mother's wombs. We could be born into a family and to parents that have and, and encourage and role model emotional mastery, but, you know, I'm not knocking what was. All I know is that we're on an evolutionary path. And we're moving into a place in humanity where we're, we are collectively reclaiming our power. We're taking back our planet and there's so much dysfunction today. I'm sure a lot of the people listening to this podcast right now are going to, you know, we're in the midst of the throes of a dying culture that's so dysfunctional and the answer is full total integration. The answer is emotional mastery. The answer is. Is surrounding yourself with people and beings that are going for total integration and that's part of why the ISA trainings are so powerful and successful is because they deliver that in a, in a one week course and at least even though you may not have mastery in one week, you'll have a clear pathway. To how to achieve that mastery and to change your life radically for the better and that's why thousands and thousands of people keep hearing about this training and your family and friends see people that do it and they go. I want some of that. What happened to you, you've really changed and it's the results that are creating the success of that organism and there aren't that many people on the planet teaching that. Hopefully they're going to be more and more, uh, because it's what's really needed. Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. It's two points I want to, you know, speak into more. One that I really hear you saying is community. And I know from my journey in the last, you know, 78 years of really diving more and more into this, this work compared to, you know, when I first started working in transformational work 15 years ago, like, actually having tribe around me that can be responsive and actually celebrate the emotional body. was such a rewiring. Like I remember when I I was, I was living down in Hayden in New Zealand and being around people who were letting the emotions move and express, and there was such this like, oh, that's just the naturalness that a lot of people are terrified of because there's people in boxes and cubicles and cities and like, if someone was being too loud, their neighbor, they might get a knock on the door being like, hey. But you know, is everything OK in there? I hear that you're angry, you know, like, what's wrong with you? You're being expressive, like this belief that, oh, something's wrong. I need to fix you because you're sad or sad or angry. I, I need to fix you. And actually being around community that are like, wow, I celebrate that. I, I, I, I bring that forth has been so freeing from my body in so many ways. It's a reframe, you know. It's like I hear people screaming and, and catharting in the, in their bedrooms or in the hall, and it's like, oh, that's really beautiful. Thank God people are feeling around me. They're letting their emotions move instead of unconsciously leaking out and, and, uh, and undermining each other basically. Absolutely. You know, and, and the other piece I want to connect the dots with is the connection between emotional body and our sexuality. You know, I, I, I, I speak into chapter 4 in the, in the book, you know, uh, the embodied man is the emotional mastery, but then later on, you know, in the book I'm talking about like sexual awakening, and I, I have it in the beginning because I found that it's really an important piece in having more sexual liberation, but I'd love to hear. You know, some of your experience and, you know, around emotionality as connected to our sexual body. OK. So you can't have sexual mastery without emotional mastery, OK? Because what happens is you just become, uh, uh, an animal that is really good at fucking or sex. Um, what makes human sexuality so beautiful is the fact that our sexuality is integrated with our emotions and our hearts and our souls and our bodies and our consciousness, and that's what makes us different from animals. That's what, that's what makes human sexuality so extraordinary and so powerful is, is that connection with the emotional body. And emotional mastery and the same thing with spiritual mastery you can't have spiritual mastery without emotional mastery. You can't have sexual mastery without emotional mastery. So the, the emotional piece is actually foundational and that's why it's so important to really put an emphasis on emotional mastery because that's going to support us in mastery, financial mastery. Financial mastery, relational mastery, sexual mastery, uh physical mastery, it's all connected and the emotional piece is really, really huge, um, so spiritual mastery as well. You know, a lot of spiritual paths, whether it's Eastern, Western, whatever the spiritual path is, so many spiritual paths for thousands. Of years and hundreds of years have been promoting emotional bypass and it's one of the biggest problems with religions and spirituality is the spirituality that's devoid of emotionality and um you know I know a lot of people that are uh have a lot of, you know, spiritual technique and a lot of spiritual teachings and a lot of spiritual understanding but they really haven't. Haven't really brought in their own emotional mastery, and what happens is it it will change, it'll change all those teachings to be much more integrated and much more anchored in love, which is really the whole idea of spiritual mastery. Hm. I, I love that you bring that in because, you know, that was part of my journey was like when I first came into spirituality, I was, you know, meditating a lot and I even went into the Himalayas in Nepal and I was like, OK, I'm, I am one with God, but yet there is still this emotional physical body. So I, I, and I'd love to even speak into it further because sometimes I find people on this kind of spiritual path, whether they're, you know, sitting in silence and and doing a lot of aposcina or they're just very much in this very ascending journey. Like, what have you found through the years that supports an individual who might be listening that that Would might want to go into the emotional body, but it's scary because it's sometimes easier. Like when I was just meditating in the mountains, it was like, oh, I could just, I am Buddha. I am Jesus, I am all this like that I'm not actually in my body. So to somebody who might recognize that, but then might have fear with all of the stuff, all of the things that haven't been felt, like, where, where does somebody how can somebody. Move into that in a safe way that doesn't distraught their nervous system, because what I do find is some people go on that ascending journey because of trauma and things that have happened and they actually want to bypass their emotions because it's too much to feel. Exactly. And you just, you just hit the, you just hit it right on the head there. And it's kind of like when you start to realize that as a human being, I'm masculine and feminine, that as an embodied man, I'm masculine and feminine, then you realize that God is masculine and feminine. God is also integrated, uh, you know, so, you know, the, the, the traditional spiritual path is the, is the Father God. And what's missing is the mother god, the mother of God, you know, so again, God needs to be integrated. We need to be integrated and people oftentimes on the spiritual path, uh, many times, uh, a lot of spiritual masters had a lot of. Um, emotional trauma when they were young and it was just a way to bypass the emotions and I know a lot of spiritual teachers and a lot of brilliant spiritual teachers that are still, um, in the process of integrating their emotional bodies and, uh, I can see the effect that it's having on them, but it's such an easy thing to fall back on. Spiritual authority, spiritual mastery, spiritual bypass, and what happens is, is basically, it's kind of arrogance. It's like spiritual arrogance. It's like I know more, I know better than everybody else. Um, but again, it's just a, it's just an ego trip and it's a way for them not to feel their own trauma. And it's a way for them not to feel their own place where they're disconnected from their emotional bodies and their capacity to really be agents of love, to really embody love so they're making up for their lack of embodied love with spiritual mastery, spiritual authority, spiritual teachings that basically will leave you less than. Embodied love, which is the whole purpose of spirituality. Yeah, and embodied love. I, I, I love that and that's very much in alignment with this this whole message of the embodied man and like the embodied masculine and coming into a new trajectory of possibility where that, you know, the Shiva can come off the mountain and then actually come into the body and. You know, I, I know for myself like the actual joy of being in the body and and it's challenging at times, and, you know, it's challenging, but then having beautiful community and and brothers as yourself that I know, hey, I can lean on you and you can lean on me, and we actually can be in our own vulnerability and our strength together. And to celebrate that, like that, when I could feel that there was a comforting in my heart and I watched some of the armor that was normally protecting me of of all the conditions that have been there before, like, oh, I can, it it it's safe. To be vulnerable here, my, my nervous system can relax a little bit. It's OK to be be in that way. It, it's more than safe it's actually powerful to be vulnerable and, and, and until you start to experience that, it may not make sense, but there's so much power and vulnerability, there's so much power and sensitivity. And uh uh again, you know, it's like as we break our hearts open, as we break our souls open, as we break ourselves open, and we keep letting go of control and allowing life to flow through us and allow love to flow through us. Then we rely less and less on figuring things out and we start to realize that the only way to navigate life is to feel things out that our feelings are always going to take us in a more accurate to, to a more beautiful reality than our minds. Our minds are, our minds are wonderful. I don't wanna, I don't wanna diss the mind or discount the mind. But the and the mind needs to be integrated with the emotional body so that. So that they can work together to manifest, uh, uh, because there are things we need to, there are, there are puzzles and problems that we need to solve. So, so we need to think things through. However, if we're not able to feel as we think, um, we're, we're working with half of a half a toolkit. Really, really important, really important. To, to, to feel things out and not to, to think things out. I like that. It's a good little, little meme, I feel like, you know, and, and that's essentially, again, one of the intentions that I have. With delivering this into the world, this book is to get more men out of their heads and into their hearts and, and another great analogy is, is that the mind is really good at at figuring things out and controlling things and the emotional body is really good at melting things and um. And feeling through things. So one of my definitions of love, of embodied love is being fully aware, fully present, and totally out of control. Because love is out of control. The mind wants to be in control, the emotional body wants to be out of control. So, you know, it's, um, uh, so one of the big themes has been learning how do I live my life out of control. You know, and, and one of the things that we've been growing up in this culture is you gotta be in control, you got to stay in control, you've got to learn how to control, you know, you've got to learn to control each other you've gotta learn to control your partner, your children, your animals. You need to control your business. You need to control yourself. You need to control your ejaculation. Everything has to be controlled, control the ejaculation do it the right way. So, I don't, I don't call it ejaculatory control is, you know, I call it ejaculatory choice because I want my sexuality and my life and my love and everything in my life to be out of control. And the only way I can live out of control is if, is if I have a healthy emotional body and I can feel the truth. I can feel the truth, not think what the truth is, but feel the truth. Because When you're out of control, then you can move spontaneously and what control does is it creates rigidity and And it undermines, it actually undermines love. So again, it's, it's, it's counterproductive. So how can we learn to release control, move into love and trust, live and navigate life out of control and receive all the magic and abundance that's here for us and it's, and magic does not happen with control. magic happens when you're in your ease, when you're in your presence, when you let go. That's when you can actually start to move in magic. So the more ease and, and the more out of control you become, the more magic and love can flow through your life. Love it, love it. So but you don't know that until you actually start experiencing it. It's a mind blower because it's not actually to know cause you can't know it, you know, I, I, I share a reference for it. I remember there was a point when I was, it was down in New Zealand and I was pouring rain down and I was just like having one of these kind of come to Jesus moments and I watched my mind. Starting to come in being like, OK, you know, what are you crying about? what's happening here? What are you thinking about? And I was like, mine, just, just give me like 5 minutes. I like you've been with me for a long time, just give me a few minutes here. And I just just feel the emotions moving inside without needing to know why. And for my own masculine psyche, that was such a pivotal moment because not needing to know why I was crying. Was like, oh, here's the emotions. I'm just melting into the mystery of my my body and I'm feeling. It's like, this is really liberating. Yeah, and it's so beautiful because oftentimes emotions start flowing through me and I have no idea what they're about. And it doesn't even matter. It's just beautiful to feel. The emotion moving through, whatever it is, anger, rage, sadness, grief, joy, bliss, uh, it all just keeps moving and, and, uh, and dissolving, and, uh, and in that spaciousness more can come in, more can more of everything can come in. Bring it in. Welcome it all, right? Hey, I'm really excited about your book. I, I, I was with you as you were writing it at different times and going through the project and, and, uh, you know, looking at covers and just all the different aspects of the book and, and of course, you know, I've been in the book, the book writing pro uh process myself and um. And I feel like the, the book and what you've written is so beautiful and so timely. So I'm really celebrating your contribution and I'm celebrating, uh, what you're bringing forward to the planet and to men and women and, and I wanna say this, you know, reading this book isn't just. Something for men is for women too because we all have that masculine aspect and it'll support us to really recognize um what's moving for the men and women in our lives and and how to have those things and you know as a man. The, the feminine mysteries and the feminine teachings have been absolutely essential in my life, as have been the masculine teachings in my life because we're all integrated beings and we're, we're more similar than we are different. So it's time to end the separation and bring in the, the integration and your book is. Important tool for that. So thank you thank you brother. This is the this is the book The embodied man it's a thud factor. It's about 350 pages and, and thank you for your support. Actually uh one of the times that I was pre-rooting it was when we were sailing out in uh in Greece together, which was beautiful. It was such a great place to, to, to share that. And you know, I like that you speak into the, the female body as well, because I've been getting a lot of messages from, from female bodies saying, hey, you know, is this for me as well? And it's like, absolutely, you know, the, the integration factor is super strong in that. So, and, and as being a published author as well, maybe somebody's finding you for the first time here, where can they find out more about all the beautiful offerings that you brought into this planet? because I know there's a plethora of the brothers, so, so share, where, where can people find you and find out more of what you offer? Well, you can, you can go, uh, I, I want to support everyone. Go to Ita.life. And there's such a wealth of resources there. And if you go to I.life, there's a community dropdown, and, and, and I'm listed as one of the faculty and, and there's a lot of amazing beings listed as faculty there, uh, all over the world. We, we have about 60 faculty members and it keeps, keeps growing and expanding. So if you want to find my bio there, I'm listed as one of the lead faculty, Babadez Nichols, and then there are links to Uh, um, a documentary movie that was made about me that's quite, um, uh, interesting and kind of amusing. Um, it's called Sex Magic. Uh, there's also a link to the book Sacred Sexual Healing The Shaman Method of Sex Magic that I co-authored with Kamala Devi a few years back. Um, all these are listed on Facebook as well. Um, you can go to babadez.com and I think that also links to my profile on. Uh, the ISA website. So you can just go to Babadez.com or Isa.life and um lots of links to, to that book Sacred Sexual Healing and and uh what I love about that particular book that I wrote with Con Ledey is it's, it's really easy to read. And it, it gives you a very simple guide on how to use your sexual energy for conscious manifestation, uh, uh, and, and how as a powerful being, your intentions and your lovemaking become a prayer and can energize and attract more love, abundance, ease, flow, and magic into your. Life that's aligned with love. So there's some really good information and there's some very old teachings made very simple for modern people to understand. Um, while you're at Itali, check out the trainings and check out what's going on with this the level 12, and 3 and why they're so important, um, if you want to be a healthy functional adult on this planet. Healthy functional adults. I think we could all have a bit more of those. We need some, we need some of those in our, in our governments. Yeah, I, I'd say so for sure, for sure, so. Thank you brother. Thank you for the friendship, brotherhood, the, the leadership you bring into the world and just, you know, one of the things I really appreciate is that, uh, unlike a lot of different teachers and people I found along the way in spending time and getting to know you like I noticed even before I knew you, I had my own series of judgments and thoughts and ideas, but. You're the most transparent and deeply loving individual and you actually breathe and express what it is that you teach, and that was such a a a warm spot in my heart to feel that because I, it's great to see mentors and friends and and colleagues that are actually. Living and breathing and not just talking about these things, but fucking doing it and I, and I fucking celebrate you, man. I, I know how much you've done in this work and how much you share yourself and I really, I really appreciate you so much. That's the embodiment piece, brother, and I, and I celebrate you on that path and I celebrate everyone listening. To this podcast, uh, on that path as well. It's the integration and the embodiment that that matters and that's where we can meet each other in a real beautiful deep authentic, loving place. So thank you for the invitation to share with you and everyone here and, um, and next time I'll get my phone and my computer lined up so I'm not going back and forth so that we can do Facebook and Instagram live. we'll we'll do another one of these for sure. I appreciate you. Thank you, man. Thank you. I appreciate you too, brother. Take care. Take care. Cheers. Congratulations on the book. Thank you so much.